V is for five-week aged porterhouse

aged porterhouse

At least it is if you're counting in Roman numerals.

I know that this may be adding a dash of kero to the flamewar, but Maytel's redacted post reminded me of a point that Michael Pollan makes incredibly badly. From the everyone's favorite justification for carnivorousness, The Omnivore's Dilemma (p.231):

Domestication is an evolutionary, rather than a political, development. It is certainly not a regime humans somehow imposed on animals some ten thousand years ago. Rather, domestication took place when a handful of especially opportunistic species discovered, through Darwinian trial and error, that they were more likely to survive and prosper in an alliance with humans than on their own.

Pollan goes on to explain that domesticated animals lead much cushier lifestyles than their counterparts whom languish in what is left of Nature. This argument seems like an ecologist's version of the bumper sticker slogan that if God hadn't wanted us to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them from meat. Just replace the deity with evolution. A few pages later, he argues that unlike domesticated animals (who made themselves through their own opportunism) humans made bisons. He quotes Tim Flannery:

"the bison is a human artifact, it was shaped by Indians"

I'm still confused as to why Pollan attributes agency to domestic animals (it was their own fault that they exist and are full of meat) but not to wild ones (who man made full of meat, through predation).


    so now you throw your hat in the ring

    co-evolution is common amongst many species

    perhaps we shape each other

    I can't help but recall images of Sigourney Weaver in the last Aliens though when it comes to factory meat....you know where she walks past all these rooms with mutated versions of herself and one screams at her "kill me"


    I don't know why I'm about to give more amunition to those who like to think that I'm in some way sick in the head, but my sister and I always laughed at that scene


    sigourney rocks


    Sigourney does indeed rock.

    I'm still trying to work out how the hell Jean-Pierre Jeunet got to direct Aliens 4 and then go straight from that to Amelie.


    anyway, sigourney aside, I don't understand how you don't understand MP's point? Evolution doesn't require agency....I agree though that saying a bison is an artefact of humans is pushing it


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